# AI in J-Rock and Visual Kei **URL:** \ **Category:** Japanese Music\ **Created:** [April 8, 2024, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543 "2024-04-08T10:43:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![ZephyrHFN](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/zephyrhfn/32/457_2.png) [@ZephyrHFN](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/ZephyrHFN)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/227 "2025-04-14T18:08:08Z")
Always nice to see Kizu fans in the wild. ---
**Author:** ![blacktooth](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/blacktooth/32/83015_2.png) [@blacktooth](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/blacktooth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:28pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/228 "2025-04-19T14:28:05Z")
Maybe Japanese bands love AI so much because 愛. ---
**Author:** ![Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Baroque)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/229 "2025-04-19T14:57:18Z")
I just thought about it again as Kizu’s new MV released today - isn’t it really surprising (or rather disappointing) that everything with Kyo has so terrible AI? Both DeG and Sukekiyo’s recent music videos are so bad - especially Sukekiyo, they have completely lost it with their last one. Absolutely awful (and no I am not talking about the beard guy I don’t care, I just mean the AI in general). The kyo-team must have money as they are so successful (at least more than other vk bands), but why do their music videos look so terrible? The AI in Kizu’s music video is so much better and refined, and they definitely don’t have as much money… Why… The Kyo-team has just hired the wrong people? ---
**Author:** ![nekkichi](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/nekkichi/32/648_2.png) [@nekkichi](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/nekkichi)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/230 "2025-04-19T15:16:01Z")
kizu are freewill’s current grailed cashcow; sukekiyo are on a beloved domestic act levels of promoting, some of their videos are very artful, some are very lackluster deg hit a bottom so low around 2008 with no AI involved (red soil video, zan remake PV, etc) I kinda expect them to always toss a bit of caca if they don’t feel inspired, or money gets tight; those AI videos they release now look about as pointless as sustain the untruth PV that had basically live footage and some random video clip art clashing together. they occupy promotional space and that’s just it. ---
**Author:** ![CervaCannibale](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/cervacannibale/32/56191_2.png) [@CervaCannibale](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/CervaCannibale)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/231 "2025-04-19T15:38:15Z")
You really like the Kizu AI better? I could barely watch it… the AI “look” is way to obvious for me. It clashes way to much with the real footage. On another note: This Diru MV with the questionable GGI always looked tacky to me but compared to the AI videos … It’s not that bad anymore… [![](https://forum.jrockone.com/uploads/default/original/3X/2/d/2df866e292d4f8766c31c72b2d7fcc594cd0675d.jpeg "DIR EN GREY - CHILD PREY [PV] [SUB] [HD]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pWt389a8SQ) And the worst thing is, I am not really convinced these AI nightmares are really cheaper … they still pay people to do these. ---
**Author:** ![Hayabusa](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/hayabusa/32/82989_2.png) [@Hayabusa](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Hayabusa)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/232 "2025-04-19T17:00:00Z")
I prefer IA of The Devil In Me to the infamous visual mush of 「R/E/D/」 very frankly.In my opinion, it’s more coherent and much better used. ---
**Author:** ![blossomingRuin](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/blossomingruin/32/69499_2.png) [@blossomingRuin](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/blossomingRuin)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/233 "2025-04-26T21:16:02Z")
there can be an art in effectively cutting costs for MVs (like in those making of extras on DVDs of movies they always love to talk about those), there is no art in replacing the artistic process in whole meaningful sequences completely what you do by using AI. ---
**Author:** ![blossomingRuin](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/blossomingruin/32/69499_2.png) [@blossomingRuin](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/blossomingRuin)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/234 "2025-04-26T21:17:57Z")
one thing I find funny about those AI gimmick music videos is how often those are only “weird ghost things in a glass display case” ---
**Author:** ![Accen1976](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@Accen1976](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Accen1976)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/235 "2025-04-30T16:08:24Z")
> [@Kumanosuke](#): > > My first thought was, that I’m not minding the low effort because I don’t think we will get anything like Kodou/Saku/The Final story videos again nor will they hire an actual artist like for ASOM, but the guy on the left literally has two arms? > I get why they’d use AI, but jeez, just let someone post-edit this shit at least and spend 500 Yen on your video. Speaking of using AI, if you’re looking for an efficient way to generate text content or even create more polished outputs, I’ve been using [Overchat AI](https://overchat.ai/) for my website. It’s a great tool for creating structured and coherent text without the need for deep editing. You can save time and energy, leaving more room for those crucial post-editing touches. It’s a smooth way to leverage AI without compromising on quality! Yeah, I see what you mean. AI can definitely speed up the process, but there’s no excuse for not putting in some extra effort on the details. The two arms thing is pretty glaring, and it just pulls you out of the experience. It’s not about hiring a huge team of artists—sometimes a little post-editing and some attention to the details can make a huge difference. It’s those small things that make the work feel more polished and engaging. AI can be a great tool, but it shouldn’t replace basic craftsmanship and attention to quality. Hopefully, they’ll put more thought into the final product next time! ---
**Author:** ![sekui](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/sekui/32/48510_2.png) [@sekui](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/sekui)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/236 "2025-05-10T12:29:22Z")
I just found this band. They take AI to whole new level. Not only MV but even members are made by AI. [![](https://forum.jrockone.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/3/6319cfe946b0307521e56947beefe4388d3cb1bb.jpeg "【AI生成90’s風V系バンド】『薔薇幻燈檻(ばらげんとうのおり)』Crepuscule Noir【MV】") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1H8_1UpE-g) ---
**Author:** ![zeus](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/zeus/32/89310_2.png) [@zeus](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/zeus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 12:47pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/237 "2025-05-10T12:47:02Z")
It begins. ---
**Author:** ![colorfuljinsei](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/colorfuljinsei/32/84300_2.png) [@colorfuljinsei](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/colorfuljinsei)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/238 "2025-05-10T14:33:42Z")
[![](https://forum.jrockone.com/uploads/default/original/3X/0/f/0f38ca543b7219c0d6cac350c7d5015164c2b5af.jpeg "【AI生成90’s風V系バンド】『白ト消エル』Crepusucle Noir【オリジナル曲】") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9AlhMCAMv8) This one isn’t half bad. Also, I need :31 as a gif 🤣 . ---
**Author:** ![CervaCannibale](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/cervacannibale/32/56191_2.png) [@CervaCannibale](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/CervaCannibale)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/239 "2025-05-10T14:46:15Z")
This is sooo bad 😂 the guitarist does not even touch the strings, there is no keyboard sound when the keyboard guy is shown and there not a trace of the singing being in sync with the lips. It would be funny if making this wouldn’t have wasted a shit ton of energy… ---
**Author:** ![blossomingRuin](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/blossomingruin/32/69499_2.png) [@blossomingRuin](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/blossomingRuin)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/240 "2025-05-10T14:53:53Z")
Quick reminder every normalisation of AI in VK will also normalise the replacement of the musicians trough AI entirely in the scene. ---
**Author:** ![zeus](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/zeus/32/89310_2.png) [@zeus](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/zeus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/241 "2025-05-10T16:25:19Z")
> [@zeus](#): > > Wait until someone tries to make the first all-AI visual kei band, with AI-generated visual kei members, AI-generated visual kei music, AI-generated merch, and no concerts because what’s the point of showing up to a venue to experience what could be done at home much more easily? It’s really not that far-fetched of a hypothesis to make, because Hololive exists and they have already demonstrated that people will latch onto a parasocial relationship with a digital entity. The only thing that doesn’t exist is the pipeline to manage all aspects of a digital artist from beginning to end. Yeah, that company might save oodles of money and become successful without employing a single human creative mind in their endeavors, but so many other people lose out in the process that it’s not an outcome I’m willing to support or even passively let happen. > [@blossomingRuin](#): > > Quick reminder every normalisation of AI in VK will also normalise the replacement of the musicians trough AI entirely in the scene. It’s like we called it or something @blossomingRuin ---
**Author:** ![zumbah](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/zumbah/32/46195_2.png) [@zumbah](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/zumbah)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/242 "2025-05-10T21:23:35Z")
Why will media companies be necessary in a world where any individual can create media of the same standard? ---
**Author:** ![blossomingRuin](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/blossomingruin/32/69499_2.png) [@blossomingRuin](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/blossomingRuin)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/243 "2025-05-10T21:27:53Z")
hello-my-name-is-princess-jane-i-would-like-to-show-you-some-tricks-i-hope-you-enjoy-it [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871766171148505098/1370877664998723684/tenor.gif?ex=682118d1&is=681fc751&hm=b2acf2ebba02976b5ffcf78d6965910b3ebef7f801eb22d6bcb0a0a574c85240&](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871766171148505098/1370877664998723684/tenor.gif?ex=682118d1&is=681fc751&hm=b2acf2ebba02976b5ffcf78d6965910b3ebef7f801eb22d6bcb0a0a574c85240&) [https://media1.tenor.com/m/meKj3Pdv0jQAAAAC/swankaids-princess-jane-princess-jane.gif(image larger than 2 MB)](https://media1.tenor.com/m/meKj3Pdv0jQAAAAC/swankaids-princess-jane-princess-jane.gif) ---
**Author:** ![zumbah](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/zumbah/32/46195_2.png) [@zumbah](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/zumbah)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/244 "2025-05-10T21:36:33Z")
You showed me there. ---
**Author:** ![penne](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/penne/32/69908_2.png) [@penne](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/penne)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/245 "2025-05-14T15:19:51Z")
Yeah I just cannot brush AI off as harmless when it has such a bad effect on the environment, even if it stays in its own lane and never impacts artists (and that’s a big “if”). ---
**Author:** ![suji](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@suji](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/suji)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/ai-in-j-rock-and-visual-kei/10543/246 "2025-05-19T14:23:49Z")
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