# DIR EN GREY announces new album MORTAL DOWNER & tour **URL:** \ **Category:** News\ **Created:** [December 10, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574 "2025-12-10T12:02:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ZephyrHFN](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/zephyrhfn/32/457_2.png) [@ZephyrHFN](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/ZephyrHFN)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/41 "2025-12-12T00:43:53Z")
downy’s first 5 albums and live album are absolutely essential listening. Their concert from 2020 is also in-fucking-credible. Ask me about it somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Nullmoon](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/nullmoon/32/393_2.png) [@Nullmoon](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Nullmoon)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 8:45am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/42 "2025-12-12T08:45:33Z")
Not a fan of their 6th album? :o ---
**Author:** ![Kumanosuke](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/kumanosuke/32/13438_2.png) [@Kumanosuke](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Kumanosuke)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/43 "2025-12-12T11:18:32Z")
He also did a remix for 滴る朦朧 on the DUM SPIRO SPERO AT NIPPON BUDOKAN bonus/remix disc in 2014: [![](https://forum.jrockone.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/2/924d5711f9092777420580f9562584b0e80fad5a.jpeg "DIR EN GREY - 滴る朦朧 (Experimental Remix by Yutaka Aoki [downy])") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ORMsGRkpM) ---
**Author:** ![ZephyrHFN](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/zephyrhfn/32/457_2.png) [@ZephyrHFN](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/ZephyrHFN)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/44 "2025-12-13T11:18:40Z")
Everything after 5 is bizarre. Surreal. It’s not that it’s not good, it’s just very challenging material to listen to. 7 doubly so, because of Yutaka(RIP), and his role in the arrangement of that album. The EP and 8 follow this more sample based/surreal/audioscape based listening format. Once again, it’s not bad, just very much a different offering. Edit: 6 has like, three of my favorite downy tracks EVER back to back - Umi no Shijima, Shikisai o furu hi, & Shinsetsu na Kyuutai. ---
**Author:** ![Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Baroque)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/45 "2025-12-13T14:02:39Z")
Who did the mix on TiW btw? That sucked so bad. Like most of the songs had no weight. Some even didn’t feel like they had any bass at all. If it was mixed by someone I hope they fired that guy. Happy they got back that nasty heavy bass for Pharalis tho, but oh hell that album was a nightmare. ---
**Author:** ![Missa](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/missa/32/23435_2.png) [@Missa](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Missa)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/46 "2025-12-13T14:25:13Z")
Dan Lancaster did all the mixing on The Insulated World, and the roster of bands he’s worked with is…uh… [uh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Lancaster) ---
**Author:** ![blacktooth](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/blacktooth/32/83015_2.png) [@blacktooth](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/blacktooth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/47 "2025-12-13T14:47:21Z")
That would explain why I got such 5 Seconds of Summer vibes from The Insulated World. ---
**Author:** ![Varosa](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/varosa/32/368_2.png) [@Varosa](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Varosa)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/48 "2025-12-13T14:54:55Z")
CRAZY. A good handful of my favorite bands on his production list and TIW sounded how it did. I actually really like that album, but agree the mixing was baaaaad ---
**Author:** ![Heyt](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/heyt/32/877_2.png) [@Heyt](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Heyt)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/49 "2025-12-13T14:59:10Z")
I don’t care too much for DEG but I’ll check downy out I guess ---
**Author:** ![Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Baroque)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/50 "2025-12-13T15:51:02Z")
Ugh… that guy sucks, he just phoned it in 100%. ---
**Author:** ![shigai](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/shigai/32/61394_2.png) [@shigai](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/shigai)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/51 "2025-12-13T17:42:20Z")
muse! 🙂 2022 muse! 🙁 ---
**Author:** ![EvilHippy](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/evilhippy/32/63602_2.png) [@EvilHippy](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/EvilHippy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/52 "2025-12-13T18:18:48Z")
Huh I don’t recall anyone complaining about how TWOM sounds ---
**Author:** ![Varosa](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/varosa/32/368_2.png) [@Varosa](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Varosa)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/53 "2025-12-13T19:58:20Z")
Did he produce that too? Because that did sound great, I love that song a lot ---
**Author:** ![EvilHippy](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/evilhippy/32/63602_2.png) [@EvilHippy](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/EvilHippy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/54 "2025-12-13T20:39:58Z")
According to that wiki page - yeah. He also mixed Dozing Green acoustic ver. ---
**Author:** ![ZephyrHFN](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/zephyrhfn/32/457_2.png) [@ZephyrHFN](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/ZephyrHFN)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 5:51am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/55 "2025-12-14T05:51:13Z")
Dan Lancaster, I’m pretty sure. I think everyone said it. Love that album, but holy hell, my ears. ---
**Author:** ![Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Baroque)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 7:56am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/56 "2025-12-15T07:56:13Z")
Am I the only one who in a sense wants them to do something completely surprising? That they go completely nuts with this new album? Or do you prefer the safe Deg? I don’t know if anyone in here cares about Avenged Sevenfold but their latest album, and especially their latest single is like they are completely unrecognizable as a band. Like they really were on acid while writing many songs on the album, like for real. Do you want another safe Phalaris or something completely silly, surprising and crazy? For example one song is a deathcore song like tsumi to kisei, followed by a chill bossanova pop song. Next one is a silly bright jpop boyband-ish song, etc. I love when artists dare to try something new. It doesn’t need to suck but do we really want another phalaris? ---
**Author:** ![CervaCannibale](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/cervacannibale/32/56191_2.png) [@CervaCannibale](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/CervaCannibale)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/57 "2025-12-15T09:38:38Z")
> [@Baroque](#): > > Do you want another safe Phalaris or something completely silly, surprising and crazy? Honestly something new and wild would be great. Tbh I hope we get a good chunck of Toshiya’s writing. He seemed so motivated about writing music in his latest Interviews and stuff. Hoping we can hear the creativity and inspiration from him on this album. ---
**Author:** ![Raziel](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/raziel/32/47952_2.png) [@Raziel](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Raziel)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 10:05am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/58 "2025-12-15T10:05:39Z")
i actually expect VULGAR or MOAB vol 2. ---
**Author:** ![Missa](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/missa/32/23435_2.png) [@Missa](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Missa)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 11:26am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/59 "2025-12-15T11:26:51Z")
I would rather something coherent and well thought-out rather than lolsorandom just for the sake of it. Not rehashing the past again would be cool too. ---
**Author:** ![Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Baroque)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 12:17pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574/60 "2025-12-15T12:17:05Z")
Well that is the point, I am afraid they will just keep going with much of the the kyo psychopath rap that we got a taste of in the devil in me, and just more of the same, probably more mudded/muffled. [Previous page](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey-announces-new-album-mortal-downer-tour/15574.md?page=4)