# DIR EN GREY **URL:** \ **Category:** Artists\ **Tags:** metal, male-vocalist, rock\ **Created:** [December 19, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342 "2020-12-19T23:16:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![Coffee](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/coffee/32/1202_2.png) [@Coffee](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Coffee)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 12:58am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/935 "2022-06-17T00:58:11Z")
its funny how different everyones list are but ya i cant deny i just feel like both DSS and Gauze are both legit 10/10s ---
**Author:** ![Saishu](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/saishu/32/769_2.png) [@Saishu](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Saishu)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 2:40am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/936 "2022-06-17T02:40:52Z")
Uroboros Macabre The Insulated World Arche Phalaris Dum Spiro Spero Gauze Kisou Withering to death Vulgar The Marrow of a Bone Uroboros (remastered) ---
**Author:** ![Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Baroque)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 5:21am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/937 "2022-06-17T05:21:26Z")
My brain is melting with all these different active DeG threads. Only me? ![Supernatural-Jensen-Ackles-Dean-Winchester-Confused-GIF_470982_1](https://forum.jrockone.com/uploads/default/original/3X/b/4/b4107d8d1fd2c8132afdb4ef05a62fd6f7ec541d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Whatamidoinghere](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/ee7513/32.png) [@Whatamidoinghere](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Whatamidoinghere)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/938 "2022-06-16T22:23:02Z")
Too many diru threads going on! Does anyone else hate the new version of AATD? I love the original even though kyo’s vocals annoy me on it but I literally can’t even bear to listen to the new one 🙉 ---
**Author:** ![Coffee](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/coffee/32/1202_2.png) [@Coffee](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Coffee)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/939 "2022-06-17T02:00:55Z")
just getting around to watching the live dvd and while i know DSS isnt everyones cup of tea the fact that Kyo still nails songs like Different Sense perfectly is absolutely fucking mind boggling. I know ive seen people mention here and there that Diru cant go back to that style because they cant keep up with anymore but thats just flat out false after watching this performance ---
**Author:** ![nekkichi](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/nekkichi/32/648_2.png) [@nekkichi](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/nekkichi)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 4:28am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/940 "2022-06-17T04:28:01Z")
CD2 might have their worst remakes recorded over the past decade, while keeping in mind tsumi to batsu cover exists and that one was the complete fucking shit no one in their right mind would ever ask for ---
**Author:** ![Shigarami](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/shigarami/32/58517_2.png) [@Shigarami](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Shigarami)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 4:40am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/941 "2022-06-17T04:40:21Z")
heyyyy i love the tsumi to batsu remake! but well, i’m a sucker for caveman sounding doom/sludge so maybe that’s the reason i love it and also the mazohyst remake edit: typo error ---
**Author:** ![enyx](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/enyx/32/89395_2.png) [@enyx](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/enyx)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 9:10am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/942 "2022-06-17T09:10:17Z")
Tsumi to batsu 2011 is great. Fight me irl etcetc. Agreed that the remakes on this one are pretty poor though. Neither of them do anything for me. ---
**Author:** ![Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@Baroque](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Baroque)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 9:22am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/943 "2022-06-17T09:22:03Z")
I cant believe they removed the children choir in AATD ---
**Author:** ![nekkichi](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/nekkichi/32/648_2.png) [@nekkichi](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/nekkichi)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 10:07am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/944 "2022-06-17T10:07:04Z")
I expected that since Kaoru is in his “we’re real m3tvl musicians now, we don’t need the gimmicks” mindset\*, and he’s the one directing their musical style more or less; Kyo’s lazy improvised lyrics on mazohyst were a huge let down for me, and the horrible horrible horrible cheap Takumi’s synth that he uses in all sukekiyo and Deg recordings now ruined AATD. I feel like 3/5 of them actually realize how much complexity and artistry their VK era had going on, with Kaoru stuck up on being seen as a trve guitar overlord he acts out, and Toshiya just doesn’t care anymore. > **Summary** > > \*\* which in turn attracts the most insufferable fuckwits to their fanbase, with another l’exemple of what I mean blessing phalaris threads very recently. ---
**Author:** ![Nic](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/45deac/32.png) [@Nic](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Nic)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:10am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/945 "2022-06-17T11:10:25Z")
1. Uroboros 2. Dum Spiro Spero 3. The Marrow of a Bone 4. Phalaris 5. Arche 6. Vulgar 7. Withering to Death 8. Gauze 9. Kisou 10. Macabre 11. The Insulated World From Phalaris: 1. Schadenfreude 2. 13 3. Oboro 4. Kamuy 5. The Perfume of Sins 6. Eddie 7. Hibiki 8. Otogi 9. Utsutsu, Bouga wo Kurau 10. Ochita Koto no Aru Sora 11. Mouai ni Shosu ---
**Author:** ![seelentau](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/seelentau/32/778_2.png) [@seelentau](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/seelentau)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/946 "2022-06-19T12:27:54Z")
Today’s setlist Same as the first live, except for Itoshisa instead of Hotarubi ![grafik](https://forum.jrockone.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/f/ff3e1a27448bf6a0197e753069e165bd52af2bab.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MorteSilenz](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/mortesilenz/32/60492_2.png) [@MorteSilenz](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/MorteSilenz)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/947 "2022-06-19T15:21:13Z")
I’m never sure but I think this is my list: DUM SPIRO SPERO UROBOS (Remastered & Expanded) THE MARROW OF A BONE Withering to death. PHALARIS UROBOS VULGAR Gauze ARCHE The Insulated World Kisou MACABRE ---
**Author:** ![Coffee](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/coffee/32/1202_2.png) [@Coffee](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/Coffee)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/948 "2022-06-19T17:01:19Z")
![FVoWjasUYAEr9Lh](https://forum.jrockone.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/0/80de3f1babf46c3408a986473954a6ac6cfcd965.jpeg) already posted my album rankings but i had a little fun with making a tiermaker for it ---
**Author:** ![blacktooth](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/blacktooth/32/83015_2.png) [@blacktooth](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/blacktooth)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/949 "2022-06-19T17:52:51Z")
Truly The Marrowest of a Bone album ever made. ---
**Author:** ![twomonstrous](https://forum.jrockone.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@twomonstrous](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/twomonstrous)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 10:33am UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/950 "2022-06-21T10:33:10Z")
So there’s a Barks interview out with Die: > **[【インタビュー】Die（DIR EN GREY）、「自分たちにしかできないコアなものに振り切っていこうと」](https://barks.jp/news/945670/)** > > 【インタビュー】Die（DIR EN GREY）、「自分たちにしかできないコアなものに振り切っていこうと」 Several highlights: - 13 and “Utsutsu…” date back to 2019 (pre-produced around the same time as TWoM) “Hibiki” and “Eddie” were much later contributions (“old and new are mixed”). They also started writing PHALARIS since 2019 and fun part - they had NO overall, big theme in mind at all. For example, Die’s starting point was just to “create something he had not done before”. - Die came up with the syncopation/rhythm for “Utsutsu” (it was an “unusual Die song”), and that led to some difficulties with Shinya trying to arrange it. - Die admits that PHALARIS is more of “a collection of individual dark songs” than “a big picture” (!!!), and also that “there are some parts that had not been captured as of yet”. - All members, incl. Die had been too considerate with Kyo and his liberties regarding whichever melodies and pieces should applied to their “orchestra”. In simple terms, Kyo is so OP that he seems to define where is the “intro”, where is the “verse”, etc. - Kyo’s cuts require multiple reworks in compositions because “easy-to-play melodies” would not follow or progress well with his takes. My Japanese comprehension is rusty so I hope someone else corrects what I highlighted. ---
**Author:** ![NewsMan](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/newsman/32/7331_2.png) [@NewsMan](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/NewsMan)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/951 "2022-06-21T13:30:47Z")
> [@twomonstrous](#): > > Die came up with the syncopation/rhythm for “Utsutsu” (it was an “unusual Die song”), and that led to some difficulties with Shinya trying to arrange it. I’m trying to imagine the difficulty, because to me, Shinya’s drumming feels quite natural and like he’s serving the song. In some ways it’s kind of a highlight for me in terms of Shinya’s performances in the last several albums, right up there with Glass Skin for me. ---
**Author:** ![VkeiWitch](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/vkeiwitch/32/76104_2.png) [@VkeiWitch](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/VkeiWitch)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/952 "2022-06-21T13:43:21Z")
![bob-phalaris](https://forum.jrockone.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/1/8176d59a5bc8159318ff0559347503b04b529242.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![nekkichi](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/nekkichi/32/648_2.png) [@nekkichi](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/nekkichi)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/953 "2022-06-21T14:26:13Z")
> [@twomonstrous](#): > > and also that “there are some parts that had not been captured as of yet”. so they’re sitting on unreleased album demos, if I understand this part right? I really love the entire album, which couldn’t be said about TIW, and I barely listen to arche at the moment, but phalaris totally needs another track or two in there to feel complete. I already want new music from them, which has been my persistent state since the world of mercy, more or less… I really don’t care for petite braconiere that much after this album. ---
**Author:** ![VoidXII](https://forum.jrockone.com/user_avatar/forum.jrockone.com/voidxii/32/51935_2.png) [@VoidXII](https://forum.jrockone.com/u/VoidXII)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342/954 "2022-06-21T14:52:11Z")
> [@twomonstrous](#): > > - All members, incl. Die had been too considerate with Kyo and his liberties regarding whichever melodies and pieces should applied to their “orchestra”. In simple terms, Kyo is so OP that he seems to define where is the “intro”, where is the “verse”, etc. > - Kyo’s cuts require multiple reworks in compositions because “easy-to-play melodies” would not follow or progress well with his takes. That’s often the case when it comes to the vocals 🙃 [Previous page](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342.md?page=46) [Next page](https://forum.jrockone.com/t/dir-en-grey/342.md?page=48)