Mana pretty much is why, although actually surprised they managed to book them overseas for a one off
I wouldnât be surprised if some of these bands have concerts in Europe in the previous/next days (especially with Japan Expo starting two days before the festival)
I was wondering about this too. It would make sense for them to add a few more dates in neighbouring countries (fingers crossed they include my country if so), and it will give us the opportunity to see them perform a longer setlist
How about X Japan reunion? ![]()
One thing thatâs bothering me a little since the beginning:
They said there will be 10 japanese bands and two european ones.
But the promotional poster/flyer in the reveal videos showed (before the reveal of any of the bands) only nine â???â - I wonder what that is about.
According to this the last â???â will be filled out today, but this will only make nine bands.
Maybe die Headliner gets a special place?
I would be surprised if they did. Usually festival contracts prohibit announcing tours in a certain area at least until the festival is over (or sold out).
But the bands also can make it a condition. They need big names to sell these festival tickets so the bands easily say âwe do the Festival but only if we can do a tour as wellâ. If they really want Mana, they would probably agree to this under the condition, that the tour is anmouced after festival ticket sell started.
I canât see B7Klan undercutting their own festival on purpose by booking their big gets for other shows and I also canât see another organizer dialing any of these bands to visit their country as well since B7Klan already generously offered to pay for the intercontinental flight.
I have nothing concrete to offer, but random one-mans arenât happening and my source is my intuition.
Yea, they could, but thatâs not how it usually works. It wouldnât make sense to use them as bait for the festival to attract people from all over Europe then. People wonât travel from London or Warsaw to Paris if they can see the bands in their city too.
And the tour stop would have to exclude basically all of France, Western part of Germany and all other close countries. Wouldnât make sense if itâs not exclusive.
I also assume B7klan will focus all their man power and energy on that event and they actually have to because itâs a whole different level than just bringing one band for a tour.
Welp, very true. I could see some of them perform at Japan Expo though, or at least having signing sessions. I know for a fact one of the bands were in talks to attend this year, but I donât know if it was after they knew theyâd come to the festival, or if it went anywhere in the end.
But maybe weâll have a quick sold out, and then they theyâd announce a oneman or two. Thatâd be neat.
Yeah, I just canât see B7klan going âweâre putting this big thing together so there you go VKBeats, KillingDaze or whatever, book Kizu for Geneva.â Nah, not happening. It would have to be a B7klan organized show in one of those closest big cities to Paris like the Ruhr region, but why do that for, idk, kizu to pull 500-700 people in Dortmund for pennies that couldâve gone to your festival with more expensive tickets. If B7Klan allowed other organizers to loot their bands, theyâd be dumb as hell too.
Wouldnât be the first time that bands play one or two festivals and do a tour. And who said that B7 did pay the full flight? ![]()
I remembere Dir en grey doing Mera Luna Festival in 2006 while on tour in europe.
Jiluka had two Festival appearences as part of their EU Tour this year.
Honestly what are yâall even talking about ![]()
Whole different case. Yes, they did Rock am Ring/Rock im Park, Wacken, Mâera luna and others, because the target audience is a completely different one.
Same for JILUKA. You really think the Wacken metalheads will be the majority of the crowd? Surely not.
You just said Festival and didnâtreally specifed that and as I said if you want a big name, you might not be able to dictated their terms, no? Thatâs my main point. Do you really think you get all these names and just tell them, they canât do any other gigs?
Surely they can make such a demand to Azavana but to MDM, Mucc or Despa? They surely want to make a profit off of this and not be paid in âexposureâ.
Usually you do. Without the festival, none of these bands would have toured here.
Yes, because thatâs how it works for actually big bands which headline festivals like Rar/Rip, Southside/Hurricane, Wacken, Download festival etc.
And they profit from the festival doing numbers instead of only selling 1000 tickets and being canceled 3 weeks before.
And like I said, B7klan wouldnât even have the resources for multiple other tours with the festival coming up. Especially financially. That would just not make any sense.
Like I said, the big festivals that VK bands played have a completely different target group. If Iâm only interested in An CafĂ© would I fly to Paris and pay like 500 Euro for flights and accomodation if they play in my city? They would draw their own crowd from the festival.
The big festivals which had VK bands were booked for giving the band exposure, thatâs exactly how they are (also) paid. Nobody is like âOh hey, Jiluka is playing Wacken, Iâm definitely gonna go there just for them!â. They want people who go there anyway and like similar bands to discover them. Thatâs exactly how bands like coldrain, Babymetal or Hanabie created such a huge fan base outside of Japan.
If you already bought your festival ticket because the tour was annouced later, well you probably would do both? If for example Despa or Kizu had more dates, Iâd surely do multiple stops and still attend the festival.
In the end does it matter? We will see what happens and I will be at that damn festival no matter what ![]()
Uhm ok âŠ. All metal Festivals I have been to I only did for vk bands and so did a lot of my friends⊠including Wacken to see Despa and Rock am Ring to see Dir en greyâŠânobodyâ is a but much of a generalisationâŠ
Thatâs exactly what I said though? Festivals usually donât let you announce a tour until itâs either sold out or after the festival took place.
And yes, die hard fans would, the average fan not so much. I think you overestimate how much people are willing to spend.
Never said anything else.
And you think the majority there did? Surely not. I wasnât saying nobody does that, but 10 people doing that wonât be enough for a venue with a cap of 7000.
Than we had a misunderstanding. I never said they would annouce now. Only that it is not impossible to do a tour at all around the festival.