Japanese Bands promoting and touring overseas

Dude I’ve read most of your posts and we actually agree on everything I’m not sure why you’re coming from such a combative place. What I’m trying to say is that when you have a higher budget you can afford things that a smaller budget can’t afford and when you have a bigger guaranteed fan base you can take risks that an unproven Band Can’t. That’s not opinion it’s just simple common sense.

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But the opposit happend here. Diru played it safe and Jiluka took a risk. Diru maybe could have filled bigger venues but it looks like they made the safer choice. Berlin venue is the same as in 2020, for example.

Jiluka absolutely could have posted surveys on their social media. Creating an online survey is super cheap and of course not 100 % accurate but it gives you an idea.

i dont think they really hate overseas, they just hate touring. Tourbus life isnt really comfortable in the end.

For Jiluka i’d be curios, how it came to be that their tour is planned by a company that is used to KPop acts. Why didnt they opt for a organizer from the metal scene?

In other news, Crystal Lake is touring the US again. And got Europe on the plan too already. And there are a bunch of other bands, that toured last year outside Japan and this year. Which makes me wonder a bit, are Bands outside the VK scene more comfortable to tour outside Japan?
And then it would lead me to wonder, why is it that VK bands seem to be less comfortable leaving and touring outside Japan?

I’m guessing it boils down to needing more staff and luggage, which makes it more expensive. I know JILUKA will travel with their stylist, which non-vk bands won’t do. They also would never handle their own merch table, which non-vk bands might be willing to do. There’s added staff and costs to VK in of itself.

For JILUKA I know at the very least four to five people will travel with them, aside from the four members. I’m not sure how much staff non-vk bands drag around.

As for the promoter they probably have no idea and those contacts came through Fake Star who does bring kpop acts to cons in the US. I’m sure there was a lot of negotiating back and forth for months and with different companies, because pre-pandemic JLK was promoting in Europe with Kei Mania. I know some other countries were definitely in the plans and negotiations and ultimately couldn’t be agreed upon. Fake Star’s manager did say this was their first ever metal fest booking, so they’re all on a first try basis it seems.

There’s so many factors and variables to organizing tours and so much money involved from all parties. It’s not simply “promoter invited band and pays all costs, bands are being divas”. It’s an investment of time and resources on all sides.

Added: VK bands have a VERY specific live culture which is what makes them VK in the first place. And I guess that’s part of the artistry they want preserved and if they can do it the same way touring overseas I guess it becomes another factor to consider.

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They don’t only do K-Pop concerts, they also do lots of other events and organized tours with Japanese bands before. Miyavi just recently for example.

Besides Twisted Talent (who doesn’t appear to dare to engage with acts they haven’t worked before) and B7klan (who haven’t been active since 2018-ish either) there’s no Japan/J-Rock/VK centered organizer left in Europe. Maybe JPU Records, but they usually focus on UK.

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