As someone from Berlin, I appriate that you did not call it ugly as well.
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That’s exactly what we’re saying though. People will travel, but not twice for the same band that close together.
With probably the same setlist, as the haven’t released any new songs till now
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This! xDD
So, did anyone go to the Helsinki show? Was it good? Did they change the set list or is the same one from June?
Can’t wait to see them on Sunday in Milan 
Thx for the set list! The show will be 
, I’m sure of it
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I wasn’t there but from what I read from twitter:
- show was 1 hour late
- they made the adults stand in the back and minors in the front for some reason (??)
- half the merch didn’t arrive on time
- Sena’s belly button piercing fell during the live and some girl stole it (and posted it online, she’s being dragged for filth on vk twitter right now)
I guess it was fun !
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That, sounds like a lot,
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Hot take on that one, but maybe they expected some crowd surfing and moshpit I to go on and thought they will be more on the safe side to keep the minors in the back??
But thats just some idea…
Edit: I misread, my bad, that theory makes no sense, sorry 
Wow, that was something hahah I just knew about the merch problem, but I don’t get the minors standing in the front like ??? Isn’t it safer to put them in the back ? 
That reminds me of the rucus back in the day, when Byo dropped his favorite bracelet and some girl natched it away, before he could pick it up, claiming he lost it and it’s okay to keep it. She wasn’t able to show her face at a live ever again. Japanese fangirls are unforgiving.
I’m not suprised that girl is treated like this right now. I doubt there’s a way to clear this up for her.
Hopefully that incident isn’t going to overshadow the rest of the tour.
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Lol at this whole “”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”““stolen””“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”" piercing situation, it’s totally ridiculous that people are freaking out about this.
It also makes sense to put minors in front because generally they wouldn’t see shit. Kid friendly vk <3
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Oh damnit, i read it that the minors were in the back
So my hot take makes no sense
Maybe… They wanted to give minors the chance to have front row experience???
Maybe they thought the minors will be shorter than the adults
Just had the same thought 
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing, but then I remembered that I’m 30 and shorter than most teenagers I’ve seen nowadays lol
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Maybe they didn’t think that far 
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Helsinki was fun! I made a strategic move and left my spot (with a relatively good view of the stage) during Venom and went to the merch booth to get a shirt! 
There were 2 different types of tickets sold to the show, all ages and 18+ (the VIP upgrade was a separate thing). The 18+ tickets were for an area where the venue’s allowed to sell alcohol, and is a thing only because of Finnish alcohol laws. Nothing to do with being kid friendly of whatever.
Edit to add the bar to my shitty venue layout pic
There were a couple of people behind me who didn’t seem to know that the 18+ ticket was for a separate area (and in a bigger venue it probably wouldn’t matter) but apparently, by the time the show was about to start, the all ages area was so full that the security weren’t letting in more people. So it’s not that adults were “made to stand in the back”, but more that people of legal age want to get a few beers during a show and the venue, of course, wants to capitalize on that. I assume younger people might not be aware of it.
I don’t know who said this, but it’s just wrong. The info said that doors open 19:30 and show starts at 20:30. They might’ve been 2 or 3 minute late, at best, but the band definitely started playing around 20:30.
Overall, I had a blast and would definitely go again!
On another note, is Ricko less popular than the other members? While I was trying to find a good spot I overheard a conversation where someone had bought a cheki and got Ricko and they said something along the lines of “no one’s gonna wanna trade it, I can never get rid of it”.
(My laptop crashed halfway writing this comment and once I got it back on again everything was still here, thank you to whoever made that a feature 
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the thing is, on the ticket selling site it was either an “18+” or “minor” ticket, so obviously anyone who’s 18+ would get that ticket right?
a lot of us did, and everyone who did got a wristband, we assumed that would just mark us for the bar to see that they weren’t selling alcohol to underaged people etc.
but the 18+ alcohol area was directly in front of the the entrance to the hall, and when we were moving forwards there was suddenly a barrier in front of us.
to get to the front of the stage, you had to go through a completely separate hallway from the side, and of course there were no (at least no visible) signs indicating that.
some people at the 18+ area told us that the area nearer to the stage was only for VIPs, but that couldn’t be it since the area was half of the venue and people without the VIP passes were still going there. we went back to ask the security about it, and they something along the lines of
“that area is just for minors and VIPs, if you have the wristband you cant go there.” and then “even if you didn’t have it, you couldn’t go because it’s so full”
but the thing is, IT WASN’T FULL AT ALL, there was a shitload of space left there and more people kept going there.
at this point we were just completely confused about the whole fucking thing and went back to our spots at the 18+ area barrier that were held for us in our absence by someone we asked to and took the cards we were dealt with lol.
it was a really good show, but it was a bit depressing seeing all the stage interaction at the front and only being in the back because of mismanagement and straight up lies from the security lol.
at the very least during the encore when the band motioned to do a wall of death (earlier in the show ricko motioned to start a circle pit but when the front is just full of kids… it didn’t happen) one guy just jumped over the 18+ barrier and me and my friends and others followed suit and got in there, for the last song and the farewells i was at the 4th row from the front hahah
i got a 2shot with sena and he was very sweet, i had a pose planned but he just pulled me in for a sidehug and a hand heart :3 i wanted to say something but i couldnt think of anything except “youre really beautiful” LMAO and he did basically the “oh stop it you” trope hehe
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another thing about the organization mismanagement, there were absolutely no lines or signs or anything at the doors until like, an hour before the doors would open? when i arrived people were just kinda scattered about, then fans made lines themselves which were very clear and well made, there was at least one person who went up and down the line to inform people about it etc.
then, like an hour and a half before doors some organizer guy came outside and shouted new line instructions that just made everything so confusing, at the end thankfully everyone got the same spots they had but it made those 45 minutes or so really stressful for everyone in the front-ish of the line.
finally like an hour before doors they put some line dividers and signs up, but of course only in front of the doors so no one past like 20 meters could see that anything was put up lol
but yeah, the concert being late or anything is a lie, at least they got that one right.
the venue’s bathrooms were also really hard for people to find, the merch line wrapped around the entrances of them and even when people found the doors, they had no idea if they even were the bathroom doors or which one was the male and which one was the female bathroom, since the only “signs” on the doors were old black and white pictures of male train conductors or female war-contributors LMAO (the venue was part tram museum part event venue…)
i think ricko is definitely the least popular than the other members, sena being the most popular, boogie second and zyean third. i think the most obvious thing is comparing the amount of instagram followers each member has lmao
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it’s weird because it’s the same organizers like in june and cologne was very well organized. the guy from the venue who came out a few hours (!) before the show was very very friendly and organized the vip/prio/regular queues very early. there was nothing to complain about organization wise.
But you don’t have the strict alcohoI laws in Cologne. Maybe the organizer is not used to this problem at finnish venues and that’s were the issue came from?