If she’s not fully informed it’s not consensual, withholding information doesn’t equal her consenting to it. Unless he’s really claiming he had a botched vasectomy? but we all know who we are talking about unfortunately 
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I would belive he had an botched penis enlargement surgery before I belive he actually did vasectomy
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If the story is true, he lied to her about his vasectomy and literally impregnated her against her will. How is she not the victim?
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Even a Vasectomy is not 100% foolproof, the percentage is low, but it isn’t 0
Is the chance incredible rare, yes, but it’s not impossible.
Past that, what the fuck happened to “use a condom to prevent STDs”?
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Sure they aren’t, but no method of contraception is. It’s never “impossible”.
My point is, that is, that she is a victim if he deceived her. Period.
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He went from wanting to sue the clinic that made the vasectomy to wanting to sue her, I kinda doubt he deceived her. At least those actions don’t sound like it
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Well, in my opinion that indicates the opposite. But like I said, no matter what happened, it’s not okay to blame her for him sticking his pp in her and getting her pregnant.
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Just to clarify this for anybody else, I am not here to defend Mia!
2 people having consensual sex and the woman gets pregnant means both fucked up. The only one who is innocent in this game is that unborn child, and that’s the only one I feel sorry for.
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Like I said, that’s clearly not the case if he deceived her. You’d blame the victim for something being done to her she did not consent to. Not sure about Japan, but it’s even a crime in many countries too. That’s all I’m gonna say.
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I don’t think this is a black-and-white situation.
He (most probably) lied to her to have unprotected sex. I assume he would probably claim that he does not feel anything with a condom, if he would have been honest to her. So he knowingly deceived her which does make her kind of a victim.
BUT having unprotected sex with someone you don’t even know is either dumb or incredibly naive. And most of the time, people would not search for excuses to defend stupid behaviour.
There is a proverb in german saying “Dummheit schützt vor Strafe nicht”, meaning being dumb won’t protect you from being punished.
She has a ittle bit of my sympathy because she is in a horrible situation now but she is also to blame for this.
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If you start citing German law, I gotta chime in, because if you assume that he lied and deceived her, it would literally be considered rape in Germany.
Considering Civil Law, he’d not only have to pay child support, but would also be liable to any costs as damages.
Don’t see how there’s room for blaming her and how your comment isn’t completely contradictory.
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I am eagerly awaiting MiA’s response. He’s gotta have one.
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I did not cite law, I cite a proverb - that is not the same thing. It may be that this saying is sometimes used in court to justify a verdict. But it is not a law.
Aside from that, as far as we know, he did not forced her to have sex with him - it was (hopefully) her free choice to do so.
I blame her for being either dumb or naive because even if he actually had a vasectomy, she would have at least willingly risk an STD.
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It’s not german law, it’s just a german proverb.
Also we don’t know if he lied about the vasectomy. Vasectomies are reversabke and in some case they reverse themselves. Him first stating that he wants to sue the clinic could also mean he did not read the small print about it being not 100% safe and realising he can not sue them.
It’s not right to blame her but it is also not right to just assume he lied. It’s not unlikely but we just don’t know. If he did not lie they both were not informed enough about vasectomies. In that case it would be consensual. They both just didn’t know better.
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Well, it’s not just a proverb, but a legal principle.
That was the premise of the whole discussion.
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No, actually vice versa: It’s a legal principle that turned into a proverb.
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I feel back at college reading about german law. Thank you, MiA
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The legal principle is “Unwissenheit schützt vor strafe nicht” not “Dummheit schützt vor Strafe nicht”. It refers to the fact that the laws applies even if you don’t know about the law (Verbotsirrtum).
It’s not about general stupidity. You possibly even get a a lighter penalty if you do something out of stupidity instead with malicious intent.
For example:
If you kill someone with intent but claim you didn’t know it was against the law to kill annoying people, it’s still murder.
If you pick the wrong mushrooms because you overestimate your ability to differentiate mushrooms, that’s extremly stupid but if you kill someone with your mushroom dinner it’s not murder.
So stupidity does protect you from penalties in some cases.
“Dummheit schützt vor Strafe nicht” is just a proverb that uses the phrasing of the principle but means something else. It’s basicallythe german version of “fuck around an find out”. They are probably used wrongly by sometimes but …well …all proverbs are used incorrectly by some people 
Thanks for listinging to my Ted talk, I guess.
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No clue why you felt like explaining it to me, because I didn’t ask for an explanation. I’m German and studied law, so I don’t even think you could teach me anything in these topics.
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