For reference, I took this super zoomed in photo from the 2F seats. On camera it looks ok because the stage is pretty big, but in person it’s pretty dang far away. I spent the night watching the screens lol.
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Is kizu a new mercenary vk band ? It’s seems Yeap!
Thats so annoying how to get a view from directly in front of the stage you basically HAVE to have a VIP ticket, thats ridiculous.
Yes, tickets are very expensive, but this allows those who really care about the concert to get best seats with less competition under this ridiculous Japanese lottery system. But VIP seats in stands could be cheaper.
Kizu keeps playing huge venues, and tiered pricing allows them to sell out these venues.
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Case in point - Toyosu Pit, which they did last year. Max Capacity 3,100
Iirc they first announced it with 3 types of tickets without listing the prices - S (VIP), A, then B. 10,000 for the first tier, and then the rest were 6000? or less. Then they changed the pricing to 10,000 for VIP, and then everyone else got in free. There were only around 1000 VIP tickets. So the live was sold out but only around a third of the audience paid full price. -
Second case in point - Yoyogi. Max Capacity - around 4000, but that includes the seats behind the stage. So the capacity for their Yoyogi live was probably around 3000-3500.
That’s only a tad more than Toyosu, and they didn’t even fill Toyosu with paying customers. They have a core audience of blog members who are willing to pay 10,000 on average for each live ticket. They’ll spend tons of money on merch and cheki as well, so that’s where they’ll be able to recover most of the venue costs. The cheapest Yoyogi ticket was only 3,000 yen, that’s chump change! Definitely not enough to cover venue rental.
TLDR - Kizu are playing in venues that are a little too big for the audience they have, so tiered pricing is the way to keep them from getting too big of a loss on the venue rental. Plus cheaper bottom tier tickets = easier to sell out = better publicity among the “normies” (non vkei fans) that they have been trying to appeal to.
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Live shows capacity of Yoyogi is 4000, seats behind the stage are not counted. It’s not accurate to say the venues are little too big for them, considering they sold out. NHK (3800) was also almost sold out, and many people did not win tickets.
This strategy is of course advantageous for them, but fans also benefit from it, as I mentioned above.
Live shows capacity of Yoyogi is 4000, with seats behind the stage it’s larger
I don’t think that’s right. [https://www.jpnsport.go.jp/yoyogi/sisetu/tabid/76/Default.aspx](https://According to this link,) there are 2803 seats in the Yogogi stands.
And here is a picture of the map showing the A to U Blocks.
The 2803 seats are ALL of the stands, including the ones behind the stage.
NHK (3800) was also almost sold out
I went to NHK on the cheapest ticket which was 2800 yen. There were lots of empty seats in the back, like at least 20-40. Lots of people didn’t win tickets for the more expensive tiers because people keep buying doubles for the best possible seats. In the days leading up to the live, twitter was full of people trying to offload their S tickets because they bought multiples.
I get that you like Kizu–I do too. But I don’t think they’d be able to sell out Yoyogi or Toyosu or NHK if they had standard prices for all seats like most other bands. Budokan is another issue. They’ve been going to so many non-vkei events so maybe they have more fans now.
Everywhere it was written that Yoyogi would be their largest attendance, and since NHK has a capacity of 3 800… Its apacity for sports events is around 3 000, but for concerts it’s 4 000, as I understand. And visually there seamed to be a bit more people than at NHK.
Yes, there are always empty seats, but overall, the venue was pretty full. I think 3 000 yen difference between their cheapest tickets and mid-priced tickets (6 000-7 000) is quite small, but many people were discovered them at that time, and maybe they wanted those people to be able to attend at a lower price. Performing in large venues is prestigious, and it’s a good strategy to lower price for those who might be unsure about attending) As for Budokan, not many bands manage to sell it out, but I hope the venue won’t be half-empty.
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Did you look at the seat map? I’d love a source on this if my source is wrong.
NHK has a capacity of 3 800
it does, but at the time I’m pretty sure they were only selling 80% of the seats or something because of covid rules.
Yes, there are always empty seats, but overall, the venue was pretty full.
Funny, because you said it was “almost sold out” in your previous comment.
I think 3 000 yen difference between their cheapest tickets and mid-priced tickets (6 000-7 000) is quite small, but many people were discovered them at that time, and maybe they wanted those people to be able to attend at a lower price. Performing in large venues is prestigious, and it’s a good strategy to lower price for those who might be unsure about attending)
I’m not seeing how this is relevant since my first comment was literally about how tiered pricing gets more people into these large venues.
Anyway, judging from your comment history, you just seem to pop up whenever you think someone is insulting Kizu to defend them, so whatever. I
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2nd Gymnasium capacity:
4,002 (maximum) — capacity, not seats
2,811 (sport) — seats
Yoyogi is a sports arena, but stands there are not large. For live shows, part of the stands isn’t used, but a lot of standing space opens up. Budokan, on the other hand, has a larger capacity for sports events because stands are bigger.
‘Almost sold out’ and ‘very full’ are not the same? Back then, there weren’t any COVID restrictions.
You mentioned they sold cheap tickets, and I explained why, in my opinion, they did that.
will lime ever get rid of the braids ._.
i mean, he does inbetween releases but then they appear again…
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He should. Its old now and wasnt really cool to begin with. Honestly to this day i think their best look was the first dvd. Haha.
I prefer the slick back ponytail he does lately, two braids in front are still alright imo, but I prefer the ponytail over all the other looks lmfao