When do you guys think we can expect the second single for the album?
I feel they need a real banger because the devil in me was so mediocre. Not bad but nothing special. For Phalararis they had ochita sora which imo is a terrible song, but also Orobo which is fantastic.
I donāt know about the single but I think we will get the album late spring/early summer. In time for their tokyo garden shows which will 100% be a blu-ray release
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In my opinion, TDIM is quite a good single. It has familiar melodic phrases and musical ideas that have been part of their sound since the DSS era, but thereās also a certain sense of freshness to it.
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man, that title is so fitting for how Iāve been feeling about them for the past two years lol
But Iām staying delusional, I mean hopefulā¦maybe theyāll go for a sludgy sound
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I really donāt understand why people hate on this song so much. I think its great and has some really interesting stuff going on as well as just having a pretty dark vibe in general.
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Agreed. Also I have a soft spot for well crafted tracks in that C# key.
I also believe had the PV not used AI, the fandom would view this song differently.
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compared to what they have done until now its very generic
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I really donāt think itās generic. Itās a messy and underbaked song, but itās not generic
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Ehh I think @Baroque ās critique still stands. Compared to the bandās own discography, TDIM is down there with The World of Mercy for me in terms of boredom and lack of creativity. It sounds like a Phalaris jam session that they cleaned up into a demo and released as a full single anyways. The song sounds like dir en grey sonically, but is compositionally lacking. Itās their weakest song to date (for me).
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Like probably everyone else here I have heard the bands entire discography and weāre gonna have to agree to disagree. Haha. I think the thing thats throwing people is the fact its not really intense, but Im guessing it also isnt meant to be. Its got a weirdly relaxing, but dark vibe and personally, I like it. Haha. As much as I love death and black metal I can also enjoy ambient and classical stuff so not everything has to āslapā for me to be able to enjoy it. Haha.
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How does anyone actually feel enough about The Devil In Me to try fighting people over it? Itās like the tepid median of everything Diru has done. I would like them to release something more restrained, I think being āmehā on the song isnāt because people want nothing but br00tal.
They have worse songs but I literally canāt imagine caring or feeling any strong emotion as a result of it.
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Agreed, except for the part about TWOM being bad.
TDIM is generic for latter-day DEG. Itās a kind of amorphous blob of a song that couldāve been on either of the last two albums. I donāt hate it, but it feels weak and itās certainly a disappointing beginning to this era. Also consider that it took them two years to write this one song. Was it worth the wait? I donāt think so.
The b-sides also suck, as have all of their recent (note-perfect yet devoid of any vitality or creativity) GAUZE remakes. 19990120 was equally pointless (except for the bonus DVD, holy shit lol). While the sentiment is appreciated, none of these remakes were worth the time to record.
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Mmm itās not that. Even if I was critiquing TDIM by intensity, theyāve written plenty of songs that are not crazy intense and Iāve usually enjoyed them. āDisabled complexes", āoboro", hell ātaiyou no aoā.
Iām also of the mind that the remakes have been lackluster and feel pointless. They were great at first because they reworked the entire structure to fit their current style and created something new. I used to look forward to them because you didnāt know what to expect (even if I didnāt like all of themā¦.looking at obscure remake).
Lately itās been more about re-recording them with modern production. They have nothing to do with what theyāre currently exploring musically and so feel jarringly out of place.
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I read everything you all wroteā¦ but currently āthe new DEGā till feels generic to me, but if course if say āthe devil in meā came from a different band, it wouldnāt feel generic. **
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This is a big problem with the latest songs written/released by DeG. There is no real creativity left. They are their own enemy themselves. Some obviously think āThe Devil in meā is a good song but its just copy&paste parts and rehash of previous material. I know most bands that have been famous or a long time end up here, its nothing unique for them.
I rememeber when song like ājesus christ rocknrockā and ārinkakuā came out. Oh good times.
Them now starting with AI music videos as well shows how much they actually care about their music writing/production as a whole. Its things like this that ārealā music critics talk about and I donāt say I am oneā¦ but you get me, maybe.
I would say the ānew degā started with TIW. That they even would put āningen wo kaburuā as a title track single is embarrassing. Again here some might like it, that its ācatchyā, but its a terrible production. They werenāt able to mix it correctly, or rather that whole album wasnāt mixed professionally. Such a thin sound, like what was the point of Toshiyaās bass lines? In most songs at least.
I canāt sit here and write an essay but the problems continue with Shraudenfaude, such a bloated overlong song just trying to copy Vinushka. If there is one really well written song on the album that stands out its ā13ā and the only one I would recommend to people, and the radio friendly Oboro is also a good songs that dares to do something a DeG ballad hasnāt done since Archeā¦ uuuuh
@Baroque hold up, you did read that Iām agreeing with you right?
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I think itās safe to say that creatively, DEG reached their peak with āDum Spiro Spero,ā and everything since then has been them spinning their wheels, while trying to pump in new ideas, with mixed results. The (healthy) ādivideā amongst us and probably the rest of the fandom shows that. It reminds me of what happened with GazettE post DIM, Lynch post signing with King Records, etc. The beauty of that is that even post their āpeak,ā these bands have produced some great bodies of work. Sure, there are some callbacks or rehashes, but theyāre done in ways that I think provide an āupdatedā feel to their sound.
Also seeing these tracks live in person has given me a deeper appreciation for these bands recent journeys too.
Its why I can rock with a TDIM, overtime grow an appreciation for MOST of Phalaris, the entirety of TIW, TWOM, and etc. And its why I donāt go into most albums with a certain expectation either. Whatever we get with downer, as long as i can add some new tracks to the rotation, Iām good. Itās unrealistic to hold them and other bands their age to a standard they prob wonāt reach again.
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The pre-chorus (ākaketa nawa ni waā) and the chorus itself are enough to make me like The Devil In Me. The garbly rap verses Ć la Sustain the Untruth is what keeps me from loving it. DEG hasnāt put out a truly great single in quite some time, with true gems being found on the full albums.
But what I want them to do is stop trying to force songs to be 8+ minutes, which is what it feels like theyāve been doing sinceā¦ Diabolos. At the very least stop shoehorning in double time sections, because then it just sounds like theyāre trying to recreate Vinushka over and over again. Sometimes it works (Schadenfreude), other times it ruins the atmosphere (Zetsuentai).
Honestly, Kaoru should be embarrassed if heās listened to Houmonsha X or Giji Necromancer. Take some cues, bro!
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Diru peak was Dum Spiro Spero and Gaze is DIM? Both are my most hated albums 
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Maybe they really were The Devil In Me.