Honestly, I wouldn’t hold out for that at all, with the recent price stuff going on. There was a thread on here about that for more context, but essentially, it costs too much to even apply for a working visa, and you’re not even guaranteed to get it. Something along those lines.
I’m not really holding out, just keeping tabs on their schedule for that “just in case”.
Time will show that is massively overblown.
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they are definitely not resting this year
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It’s not overblown.
I’m unsure how many people DEG brings on tour. Let’s just say (for example), they need the 5 band members + 5 irreplaceable support staff (audio engineers, etc.). In this case, the cost of VISAs alone for would be $16150 minimum. If they need roadies, it might be cheaper to hire them in the USA rather than bring them along, but these would need to be specialised individuals who speak Japanese.
This cost is before flights, coach hire, venue hire, accommodation, food, insurance, and all other expenses.
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If the application is not accepted, that money is not refunded — on top of losses from a canceled tour and missing out on “significant, potentially career-changing opportunities,”
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The U.S. government is “putting more and more burden on the application process,” says Castro of BAL Sports and Entertainment Practice, which specializes in visas for musicians, entertainers and athletes.
He says 20 years ago, applications were just two or three pages. Now, they’re 15 or 20 pages.
“And those are just the forms before supporting evidence,” he says. “Now I’m submitting documents that are 200 pages, 300 pages long just to explain why this band should be traveling throughout the United States.”
It’s not clear if this also works the other way for US artists wanting to tour globally. All I know is, several US bands in recent years have refused to perform outside the country. I was gutted to not see Skinny Puppy on their final tour. 
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Who the hell is this for, does that mean they aren’t very interested in doing lives anymore, but are forced to by their label? I can understand that having to tour all the time is quite tiring… I wonder what its about.
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It’s “WHO IS THIS HELL FOR?”, not “WHO THE HELL IS THIS FOR?”.
We’re all reading it wrong, it seems!
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It’s part of the lyrics of The Devil In Me.
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“ThIs Is UnNeCeSsArIlY aGgRo!!!”
Nah, it’s vastly overblown. Just look at Boris who are coming back to the states and some no-name band called “Jiluka” who are playing only 1 gig — which IN THEORY should be impossible due to the massive increase in visa application costs.
I guess not.
Furthermore, bands like Boris or Dir en grey would largely be unaffected by something like this considering they’re able to tour across the country.
Also, I hate to be an asshole, but I find it amusing watching European fans relish in the thought Japanese bands will no longer be able to tour in the States. It’s a sentiment I’ve seen for years on these types of forums, and it’s mad cringe.
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Nobody relishes in that thought. Aero posted about their hope for a US tour and I replied why it’s unlikely it will happen anytime soon, and that holding out hope would probably be wasted.
If anything, I don’t want US fans to be disappointed, we’re all in this together after all.
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I hate to be that guy, but where did you see us “Euros” relishing in our Schadenfreude (no reference intended) regarding Japanese bands’ inability to tour in the States?
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Why would we relish in it? Them not being able to tour the US does not help with touring europe. Maybe bands choose to not go overseas at all if they think they won’t be able to get into a giant market like the US anyway. I saw no one here being happy about it. We where all just concerned.
Honestly if you a reading relish into the replies to this thread it makes me wonder if you have prejudice against europeans rather than europeans finding joy in other fans possibly getting less tours 
Also Jiluka probably applied for their visas before the change in April.
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No one’s being aggro. I did some research based on the conversation and posted my findings here. That’s all. As far as I can tell, the information shared is true, especially since it’s corroborated on other sites.
The article I posted states clearly that this new increase became law on the 1st of April this year. Applications for VISAs need to be submitted many months in advance before approval (or you can pay an enormous fee to expedite them). With this in mind, Boris and JILUKA probably only had to pay $460 per person. Any band wanting to tour after 1st April 2024 needs to pay between $1615 and $1655 per person.
No one said that, and to my knowledge, no one’s thinking it.
My opinion is that the whole situation sucks for everyone. It sucks for fans of international bands, and it sucks for the bands themselves who have to pay vast sums to even be allowed entry to the country. The only people this benefits are the fat cats running this farce.
IIRC, the VISA lasts a year, so any bands who currently have one may try to play a few more dates before it expires. Plus, any bands who pay for new VISAs are likely to play more than one tour to maximise the money spent.
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Well maybe im an a-hole but i dont care if they play in the US as long as theyre still playing in Europe and Japan so i can see them. So i wouldnt say i relish in that but, maybe do feel a mild but smug like, saw them two nights in a row earlier this year so we’re good here. Haha.
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As I said, it can still influence oversea tours overall. And why would I wish for other fans to not see them? The loss of them is no win for us. There is just no point in feeling smug about it. There is surely a lot of wonderful US fans who don’t deserve this.
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Do you think they earn anything to do overseas tours, or they just do it for the fans?
Of course I don’t think they go minus but there must be so many various costs. I mean only one flight ticket to eu or us is like $1000, and they fly with a whole team of people. Is it a plus minus zero deal? For the fans?
Hm… 
As much as I like the thought, that they do it just for the fans, I highly doubt it. Especially since they are know to be the ones who are not particulary fond of overseas.
If they don’t make any plus than they probably do it as a future investment in oversea markets.
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I feel like hes going through a midlife crisis.
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