While I also like the orchestra lives, I am a fan of his solo stuff and I do think that it is different enough from the lynch. direction that it absolutely has a raison d’être. My faves are Ω, C.O.M.A, TOKYO PSYCHE and +ULTRA.
Hazuki writes most of lynch’s songs last i heard so his style isnt too different in his solo stuff as with lynch. It makes sense a little bit for the solo stuff imo because of songs like manoyume and shichiseki no rai not sounding anything like lynch but then i don’t understand why Baby i hate u and overkill type songs weren’t under lynch because thats straight up their newer sound
If Kyo wasn’t my musical inspiration id probably not listen to sukekiyo either. They have some great songs but like i can’t listen to another 7 minute song in the POV of a manic teenage girl without them all bleeding together.
Part of me wonders if the band ended up being like label mandated to hang onto the lady fans of kyo since DEG is mixed and PB is straight dude music
Chorus are the only good thing about DIAURA
Omg. I always thought I was the only one thinking that Jiluka is just a worse version of NOCTURNAL BLOODLUST ![]()
So I’m not crazy!
It is a big mystery for me how sukekiyo could go from Anima to Breeder.
Yooo so many years later.
I gotta disagree, attitude is a BANGER and the leccy bits add to it (imo, for 2012). I don’t mind it saying “dubstep” cos back in 2012 dubstep was the shit! (already dead to me by then but still).
Required malfunction - leccy drums sound cool. Lovely chorus.
Gabriel on the gallows - TUNE
Derangement - not my fave but again, they actually went “all in” on the leccy andmade it work! I don’t think there’s any other band I know of that went in so hard with the 2012 dubstep vibes mixed with metal and pulled it off to anywhere near the same level. Of quality and musicmanship as the gazette. Like all other dubsteppy metal just sounds trashy and cheap and like myspace emo to me hahaha, gazette mixed dance beats and experimental electronic elements with metal on division in such a cool creative way. I think it was mint. They refined it with deformity but I think it lost the dnb / dubstep edge.
It’s not about tasteful elements wehen it comes to dance music or substep they went all in wioeth the fusion and combined it with some of their best choruses and riffs and forced it to work. Big respect.
I think after DOGMA they lost their creative edge.
Lol sorry fore replying years on hope ur thriving my comrade xx
Wow this comment was from wayyyyy back! Nah man always a pleasure to have discourse.
Interestingly enough, I gave the GazettE’s post toxic discography a listen just recently and posted my thoughts in the GazettE thread. Surprisingly, my thoughts on Division haven’t changed a bit after all this time. And a lot of people apparently love “attitude”.
I like heavy music and I like dance-y electronic music too. But I just don’t think the GazettE mashed the two up well on this album. “Suicide Circus” from Toxic was ten million times more pleasing to me and didn’t sound cheap or trashy. The difference I think is restraint.
Toxic worked for me because it seems like they composed songs their usual way but also considered how to embellish them with the electronic elements, not push them to the forefront. There’s a balanced play between both. In Division, at times it sounds like the electronic elements are just placed over a song and they called it a day. The fact that they brought in Teddy Loid for the dubstep parts shows how much they were out of their element. Experimenting and collaborating in wacky ways is fun, but it doesn’t always pay off.
I know Division has got its fans, but I’m just not one of em. But what do I know, I think Disorder is their best album to date and I prefer the “Eternal” version of Wife over the PSC version.
I never thought I’d see someone say that the Eternal “Wife” version is better-- THANK YOU. It has more of an unsettling, nu-metal-y vibe to it that just clears the later, punk-y version easily.
Holy waifu, same!
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Yes, that’s the perfect description. I can’t argue that the PSC version is much more refined, but the OG has a lot of good guitar work that, unfortunately, gets simplified in favor of heaviness.
I also don’t care how cheesy the gang vocals are. “JUICE JUICE JUICE. JUICE JUICE JUICE…”
This toxic idea that visual kei musicians should be forever single so that lonely women can fantasize about them gotta die. Let’s stop and think about it for a second, right? You want musicians to basically be celibate so you are free to fantasize about them however, but the minute anyone actually actualizes on that fantasy and makes it real, it’s suddenly bad? That’s real loser shit. Shoot your shot or move on. Let band men date whoever! Don’t drag people because they’ve had a relationship in the past. Don’t harass anyone that’s currently in a relationship either, unless they’re cheating. Either that could be you or it was never going to be you and in either case, the toxic behavior is unacceptable.
I agree
Ladies please, stop fantasizing about me i’m just a simple amateur musician ![]()
I don’t think, the people you are talking to are in this forum, sorry. Post that on Twitter and Tiktok to reach the target audience. This also def not only oversea fans. Japanese fans are delusional as well. Figure Skater Hanyu Yuzuru got married and left his wife because the fans would not stop harrasing her … he is not even an Idol or anything. He’s an athlet…
That’s an issue that goes far past the VK scene though.
Where do I start?? Let me pull out here and anecdote I heard, of a journal of a young woman 100 years ago, that kept track of her favorite scientists. The journal stopped with his marriage (no, not to the Journal owner). So, you see, fantasizing about your idol, about dating, marrying, or whatever, has always been a thing.
But the difference here is, that nowadays we explicit push into the fantasies, and when I see @GreatNorthernVK her Reports and hear from others how the VK scene works. They are doing the same as idols, they push into the “I am single, so you can fantasize guilt free about me or you can have your hopes up”. For big bands that game is easier, there is a puffer zone between fans and band. But smaller ones don’t have that puffer zone usually.
And I think I am drifting off here, but yeah girls get swept up in their fantasy, in their parasocial relationship and that’s when they get pissed when suddenly the bandmen is dating. They think they have a right onto these men (or women, in case of female groups)
Also remember, Japan officially allows labels to add a no dating clauses into contracts, so that definitely doesn’t help either.
I feel like that issue is far worse even with local fans, because they have the access to make those parasocial relationships feel real. We still got some barrier, from distance to language, to not fully get lost in our fantasy and delusion.
Yes, you definitely have the right idea. Smaller bands actually depend on forging connections with fans, even completely platonic ones.
For some bandmen and fans, that will escalate into flirting, possibly even some kind of private arrangement. “Mutually beneficial”. Sure, they could always just date a non-fan, but the fans are considered easier pickings even if it inevitably causes more fandom drama than it’s worth.
It’s the appeal of scenes like menchika idols where the music isn’t even as good as the professional groups that have a few hundred million yen behind them at any given time, but what they do have that the big groups lack is accessibility.
Now, for the overseas fan community, things are gradually changing from how they were when we were younger.
Much more emphasis on finding one single guy to obsess over (nobody cared about “honmei” 15-25 years ago), more access to bandmen than ever before, bands actually banking on appealing to foreign netogya due to the possibility that a company like Killing Daze or RIT might sponsor them to come to Europe/Latam.
So we might start to see more possessive behaviour from foreign fans. Especially if they go to Japan and start reading more into these eigyou (sales) tactics than what they are.
That actually makes me wonder a bit how much K-pop had an influence there too, because I feel like this isn’t a sole influence from Japan.
Thinking about the whole dating part, I guess the issue has also become that we people have learned that we can say things on the internet and get away with it without social consequences, so we talk without filter. And that’s then where the frustration comes in and people get pissed at bandomen dating. They might feel actually hurt, which is fine and legit, but in real life there is still often a a social filter, that is missing online. So girls who had hopes, leave their frustration out.
…until the police show up at their home and charge them with invasion of the personal lives of musicians or their partners, disclosure of private information, or making threats against them. In Japan, things have become stricter about this relatively recently, and I hope the habit of people venting their poison and frustration onto specific individuals will become a thing of the past.
I think i’m the one straight guy in all of the world who wants to be in a vk/japanese metal band who could not care less about the fan girls.
I feel bad for the bands who genuinely want to just make good music and have to do the fan service bullshit because delusional people want to have their fantasies.
The other day I saw a person on Instagram complaining about standing pits at K-pop concerts. They argued that seated pits are better because of safety and only exist, so they could sell more tickets and bank of the fans.
Apart from a non japanese pop concert in the UK and classical stuff, I never saw seated pits at concerts in Europe but I was at a GazettE live and a Mantenrou Opera live in Japan that were fully seated.
And my (un-)popular opinion is that standing pits are superior and seated pits suck. And I don’t think standing pits are much of a safety hazard. I think much more concerts would be fully seated especially in Japan if there were safety concerns.
Another issue i have is, while I appreciate the more calmer and appreciative crowds vk shows have, WE NEED MORE PITS AND CROWDSURFING. Watching old mad capsule markets concerts is like watching woodstock 99. Japanese fans are insane. Crossfaith is the only band ive seen in japan where the crowd is wild. Sim opened for them one night but the real reason i went to their two night is lynch opened the second night. I got to get in a circle pit during fatal hour. Im not even a pit guy, but if more bands i like had them you could catch me in them all the time. Shout out to the girl who was crowdsurfing and landed on her head and got knocked out next to me though.
I think they should do shows where theres the normal crowds and shows where they allow wilder crowds. I know diru used to do male and female only shows and the set lists were based around the intensity. I saw some brave girl crowd surf during linda candy dive during the second encore at a gazette ahow though which was neat