Singers who improved the most throughout their career

So I thought about this based on a conversation I had with a friend today. Some singers begin their career quite bad at singing, but over time as their band continues to release music and the members continue to train you can at times see remarkable increase in vocal skill over a short period of time.

One example I can think of is Aoi from Ayabie. During Shedde he didn’t have much depth to his voice, but a few years into Ayabie he was singing incredible ballads like Meefishu no uta koi kana. Jui from Vidoll is another example if you compare his vocals to De-vine, and Ruki from Gazette improved drastically as well.

A non-vk example I can think of is M Shadows from Avenged Sevenfold, if you compare his earliest work to his work in Sounding the Seventh Trumpet where his singing was very weak with not much depth to future releases where suddenly he’s able to perform those resonant raspy hard rock vocals.

I’ll give a few examples but I’d love for you guys to post your own and I’ll check it out.

Aoi over 4 years.


Shedde - Strawberry Doll - YouTube (2002)
Ayabie Meefishu no uta koi kana suihou - YouTube (2006)

Jui over 4 years.


De-vine - Luvis~A God With Struggle~ - YouTube (1998)
Vidoll - kimi wo nosete - YouTube (2002)

Riku over 4 years


Riku over 4 years

Kar+te=zyAnose ~Track 2 - YouTube (2001)
the GazettE - Cassis [PV] - YouTube (2005)

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Thanks, I actually wasn’t sure if this was in the right category and I don’t use the forum much so I appreciate you fixing it for me

SUI’s singing improved massively over the years IMO, though it’s over 20 years, so I guess it’s not a miracle. One of the reasons I can’t really get into Metis Gretel is that he just wasn’t as good back then IMO. Even some early Megaromania sounds rough for me. I still like them, but they are nothing compared to the eargasm that is his recent output.

2006:

2022:

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Gara from Merry. He always been a good singer but he improved a lot. He can control his voice and the emotion he puts in much better. I noticed this with their recent special album celebration livestream. They played old songs.

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Maria Cross lol jk
I think Ryoga (former- Born, now in Razor) has improved a lot

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Shogo from Babykingdom already changed so much between the original Haikara/High collar from 2016 and the rerecording in 2019

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Tbh I dont have the impression that japanese singers improve throughout the years.
Same with Japanese actors. Maybe its a cultural thing.

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I loooooove fairy tale gothic, but yeah his range, resonance and dynamics is much better in David than it was in Metis and that song is awesome!

But also compared to Ghost Phobia early Metis was a huge improvement as well.

Another example is Atsushi from ASHEN DEAD.

Signal lade - LAST SEASON [2009.09.14] - YouTube (2009)

ASHEN DEAD「Cosmos」Live Style MV - YouTube (2021)

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Kamijo has imo had the most drastic evolution in his voice. The most notable shift happened in 2007, where he pretty much managed to turn his voice into a completely different sound withing just a few months. Compare early Lareine to later Lareine to Versailles’ The Revenant Choir to Lyrical Sympathy later that same year. And even after this stark 180 in 2007, his voice contiuned evolve into different directions at different times.

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Kyo (D’erlanger) and Asagi (D) comes to my mind. Maybe Hazuki (lynch.) too!

Here’s one for Kyo:

D’erlanger - Lullaby (1989)
Die In Cries - Love Song (1993)
D’erlanger - XXX For You (2007)

I mean there are examples in the post

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Would you say you can at least hear a difference in a singer between the start of their career vs. say, a decade or two in? Even if you don’t necessarily think it’s an improvement?

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Kuro in between Black September (2013) and Rides In ReVellion (2022) is a perfect example for sure. Black September "Yuuki" vs Rides In ReVellion Kuro - YouTube

He doesn’t even sound like the same person anymore.

The difference between his old horseness and clarity now, and fluency over his pitches is insane.

Some that haven’t been said

  • Yo-ka (Diaura), he was good in VALLUNA but then he got crazy good from 2013-2016
  • Jojo (GALLO), his voice has always sounded weird but he transitioned from bad weird to really good weird
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I know a lot of people will disagree but I actually prefer Kyo’s vocals now compared to the earlier stuff. Has way more solid range in every aspect basically.

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I have the opposite impression. Kyo of Dir en grey started out sounding like just some guy (pre-DEG, he was already above average in DEG) and ended up with people contemplating if he’s the greatest metal vocalist ever (he is). Kamijo of Versailles and Ruki of The Gazette also made massive improvements.

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I think this is relatively popular.
What I’ve seen people think is for pop-rocky stuff his younger less damaged voice was better.

But otherwise I rarely see people say anything except that his technical skill and range has dramatically improved.

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You know what I’m coming through with. Yasu from Janne Da Arc/Acid Black Cherry

1997 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTHCmFWAX0I
2001 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFZaebC0AYI
2003 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bimL1Ae8gE

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