What is your opinion on foreign VK bands?

Language is always a tough thing but look at Rammstein? they did pretty dang good! because the music, the gimmick, the entire package was 10/10 great. I imagine if hide w/spread beaver did the tour with Marilyn Manson they would have had similar success in that era of Rammstein, Powerman 5000, and Rob Zombie killing it. But vkei’s target audience is not those people overseas either so, tis a tricky thing!

Recognition and budgeting for any band is always the biggest problem, regardless of genre or location.
To be fair Yohio had his release under UNIVERSAL due to his dad’s connection with them right? but that led to nothing getting bigger. Most major label contracts now are just you going into debt for the first release and if you do not make the money back you have to pay it back, so like I know a girl from the countryside here in Japan who “went major!” no one bought that hoe’s release so she effectively just went into a sparkly version of debt haha. That is why bands like Kiryu who are technically on an indie label but make more than major bands, or on the lower level of things: I am self produced label, distribution etc. and I made more money last year than my friend on indie label and more than even a guy who was major from the 90s, so we need to erase the old outdated view of Major labels for sure.
lots of the foreign vkei bands focus alot on sns and not on making money it seems too, you can have 2000 followers but if only 10 actually buy the releases what is the point? better to build a quality piece of art and have 500 followers but have 100 of them buy every release because they believe in the quality.

More so than this these bands do not even garner the regular experience of playing at bars, music venues, etc. and often have stuck to just playing anime cons, weeb type events etc. where the audience was already baked in. I cannot stress how important it is to go out there and play places where no one knows vkei, no one gives a sh*t about Japan and then try and win them over even if it is only 4 people in the venue. This is why I tell so many of these bands to not sing in Japanese, sing in native language, find a similar genre that has same roots to challenge and build up experience in i.e.: Goth, Industrial, Metal, Glam rock etc. then take that experience and skillset and if you get big enough you can transition to Japan gigs in the actual vkei scene someday.

again it is that imitation trap, lots of these guys want to imitate the vkei scene in their home countries but they cannot, some are happy just with having a small echochamber weeb fanbase or anime con nerds instead of innovating. The best guys out there now taking that vkei influence and adding it into their original sound is Flood District, maybe some of ya’ll are thinking “ok the sound is there but the looks? naw” but gurlll they are building that experience up and can one day translate that experience and success into straight up vkei over here if they wanted to! whereas some edgelord weeb obsessed with trying to be The Gazette or Mejibray is gonna be stuck in his room or at anime cons with no future but a lil chip on their shoulder.

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if you consider tokio hotel and cinema bizarre to be euro-VK, both had american contracts with cherrytree (sublabel of interscope/universal music group)

for newer bands, the sound trends of this decade probably would make it impossible to go major w/o adopting crazy pronouns, faking a transitioning sob-story and scoring a PaulRu’s drug rage feature.

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Truer words have not been spoken. This is the whole topic right here, honestly. Rock and metal ain’t popping no matter where you look; mix that with eccentric vocals and whacked out visuals and you repel almost everyone from the common denominator. Gotta sub in a hook to get anyone’s interest back or you aren’t getting more than 30 seconds of anyone’s TikTok-rattled attention span.

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I can’t speak on anywhere but Dallas but i’ve not seen this to be the case here! At least in the hyperpop / emo rap kinda underground scene i’ve been with, i’ve seen bands and artists play with makeup and costumes that wouldn’t have been out of place at some shitindiez taiban for bands with zero budget and no label

I can’t remember the last time i saw a band that would’ve just been described as rock or metal - everything’s way more spun off now, no one’s doing just the base thing.

I know this sounds a bit “and then everyone clapped”, but reset memory got invited to shows and bars just from our music and networking - no one knows the word vkei but our level of dramatics and imagery just doesn’t seem at all far from what else is going on around us

Like cool you take influence from a Japanese underground goth scene, that’s cool we’ll put you on after this band who’s trying to bring back 2000s Florida nu metal and before this solo artist who’s favorite thing is Romanian folk punk

Idk about singing a language you don’t speak but aside from that it never felt like what sorta music reset memory or Posadas tried to be, it was more how do you sound and can you network with other bands/business owners without being bizarre that got us shows

Fwiw people would come up after Posadas shows and tell us they couldn’t make out a single word but gave up on that, rode the vibes and loved the set - so even switching to Spanish didn’t phase anyone or tbh probably register. Ofc, our singer is Colombian so Spanish made sense.
I’ve done shows in like fucking Texas-ass country bars dressed in full SPR or Quite Frash and gotten people come up to me and ask for my IG and Spotify - like sorry for bragging but i mean to say it’s possible!

All this to say - i don’t know if it’s an inherent thing about doing the sort of things vkei fans like about vkei that makes it impossible to play shows and reach people, bc crazy costumes, weird voices, and heavy music seem to be doing fine in whatever city i or my music friends have been to…

But maybe there’s something self-defeating about an attitude of “we do a different thing from over there; it’s not for you or about you but we’re gonna do it in front of you anyway & hope you like it”?

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