Most toxic/cringe/crazy fan bases in J-Rock/Visual Kei

Already been said.

Not sure if I said it but at least this is coherent enough for others to understand.
But I really have no fucking idea what bangya is and I don’t wanna know.

Hate phones the world is simpler without them.

Kids hyping about something isn’t cringy, they’re fucking kids they’re meant to be stupid what’s their excuse? We got a couple here now and everyones silent treatment doesn’t work or excessively flagging hell even if nekkichis idea of dislike is put in it wouldn’t work.

You all misunderstand do you think places like these are for music advocates? No, mostly they’re for people who have nothing better to do, some show their true selves, get called an asshole and hide behind the great excuse that is ‘‘trolling’’ fight with strangers online because no one can carry their shit irl.

I want to believe that maybe love can change them irl but I’m not sure, maybe its in their blood, being like this, maybe they’re too far gone, maybe it’s my fault for giving up so easily. But like the rest of us, they work, they have their own road and no one would care otherwise. In their apartment nothing else matters, close the door and your own world opens. Spew out whatever insanity they kept in to anyone foolish to heed their 3 dollar bill words.

All of this because people can’t spend a day alone. Everyone’s getting restless, 7 second videos of degeneracy flowing into our daily lives, soon these people will eat each other alive.
And this is for people who spend hours of their day with phones glued to their hands.

Instead we should cherish our time for something better. Nothing lasts and who cares what you post here? better out then in shrek say’s.

I don’t mind, as long as there’s a sky so true blue and clouds shading me, the sun giving me warmth. Raising up our hands, white flag high
in a day you can say you own it, draw the line and define your behavior, I’m not like you, I won’t be you. And realize all the lies they’re promoting.

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Mejibray fans. Back in the days.

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bro that was horrible asf lmao. Not so long ago I read the DIMLIM fanbase lore websites and it was horrible

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Early 2000’s and Diru fans. It’s annoying when they act like every band thats not them like, NEGA, Unsraw, llll-Ligro-, ect, were always “tRyInG tO bE lIkE DiR eN gReY” or every loud-kei vocalist was “iMiTaTinG kYo SaMa.”

The Gazette fans were the same if not more annoying and cringe.

Visual Kei wattpad fanfics are pretty cringe rich.

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To be fair there’s a lot of Kyo worship among vocalists who came up around that time, especially Jin.

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I’ll buy all of those cheki’s and other merch items :triumph:
Idc if he’s married, he’s like 40 now
He’s funny, his looks are cool asf

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in most cases reaction videos mean nothing.
You have either people simping for everything a band is doing or rage about anything.
They are complete waste of time

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A special place of hate will always get the people who see Memento Mori as Kiryu Rip Off simple for having a Japanese theme.

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I disagree on that.
Reaction videos mean exposure. Exposure means new fans.
And new fans will lead to new people to buy your shit.

Of course, they are humans, they have prejudices, they prefer certain stuff over other stuff etc etc
And of course there people that follow those YouTubers religiously and agree to every bullshit they say, but you can find that everywhere. (Oh wait we can find these people for bands too :upside_down_face:)

But i also have to admit, i prefer twitch streams over YouTube usually.

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That’s the same for any type of media no matter where you go in Vkei. Simps help create a dedicated fan base to that band or bands and will hype up anything such as single, album or one-man announcements that helps the band get more exposure and a lot of simps will buy merch. Rages is going to exist no matter if your in Vkei or not everyone is human and we don’t always agree on something.

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Don’t take it personally, but the whole international Visual Kei scene is kind off toxic.
(And in adjacent I’ve heard my fair share of japanese fans too)

Look, I have never seen so many dumb meaningless and petty fights other than in the VKei scene.
And it’s somehow never musicians actually fighting with each other or bands fighting.
Nah it’s fans fighting each other, being petty with each other.

Why are there whole Twitter accounts to trash or call-out one person?
Why does tanuki has to make threads on problematic fans?
Why are there people who think they have to pretend to live in Japan, when they don’t?
Also those fights pull over several social media plattforms often.

You could think r/metalcore is bad, because it’s reddit, but you know what people fight about there?
Whose music taste is the better one, or if that band now is metalcore or not and once in a while we trash on bands that have done some serious shit that was not ok. And the worst we have it, when it gets political.

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This was after I changed Ruki’s membership of the Gazette to former members… on Wikipedia…

That said, DEG’s Twitter fanbase seems to be equally as toxic. I tend to stay away from them, but recently I was talking to someone in DMs regarding them buying some stuff from me, only to later find out that they dissed me a year or so ago. Like, come on, you don’t like me, but want to give me your money? Make it make sense xD

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That’s what is called business. xD

Well, sadly or maybe luckily, they didn’t end up buying. Probably wouldn’t have gotten my money anyway.

I know my denouncement of this means little in these waters, but this is a great example of that abhorrent, para-social bullshit that’s become normalized within the scene. REITA is dead, it’s correct to update the Wikipedia page to reflect an unpleasant reality, and the lot of those people need therapy. And to go outside.

That is why you want reasonable moderators. That is why you need reasonable moderators. That is what happens when you allow people to say and do whatever they want with no oversight. It is why JRO is rather muted and tame in comparison to The Thunderdome™.

I quote myself again without the /s because I am not kidding this time.

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That’s wild but I think the problem is not “gaze fanbase” but “twitter people”.
I was relativly active on twitter in a very diffrent fandom (Hannibal TV Series) and there were a lot of nice folks but twitter is twitter… there is no nuance to anything there. It became so bad at some point I barely open it anymore.

If you wanna measure a fandom’s cringe level you should measure it offline.

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What I always find funny is the projection prevalent in these fandoms. They are so crazy about their band that they see everything through a lense of craziness, which turns even the most mundane acts into the workings of a person as crazy as them.
They can’t imagine that I would make those changes for any other reason than being “jealous” of their fanbase and am “going crazy” because of it (or whatever they meant), because they themselves are so crazy about it.

Reminds me of two people we banned not long ago, I knew that both were shitting on JRockOne on other plattforms, funny though, they both delivered a Speedrun into a permanent ban.
(One of them was shitting on me recently on Twitter, tagged me from her closed Twitter account knowing very well I won’t see what she is saying)
I also even accounting that that person is reading along here.
So I guess I am serving twitter content now.

Strong point there, a tons of problem I’ve seen came from Twitter (or TikTok)

Don’t get me wrong by the way JRO is a echo chamber like so many other groups/forums whatever, it’s normal to a certain extent.
But in comparison to twitter there are people who moderate between people and to keep the climate of the place not too toxic or to help when shit goes off the grid.

That shit isn’t happening on a place like Twitter.

So maybe I have to correct myself here and say the most toxic fandom is vkeitwt or Vkei TikTok.

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Dir en grey fans at all lol